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Shariel law in texas... (by Lionface)

 Lionface (9)    (63 / M-F / Louisiana)
5-Feb-15 3:47 pm
At what point in time did the law of the land get over thrown by foreign laws, just watching the news and there gonna have there own Cort system on a voluntary basis..they stated that in England , its almost as enforced as the there country's law, well they got there foot in the door now.

 

 

 
 
 WalkSoftly 
5-Feb-15 5:03 pm
"" Sharia Law, it's how Muslims settle disputes
in many countries. Now, that law is being
practiced in what's believed to be a first-of-
its-kind institution operating in the United
States.
In North Texas, just outside of Dallas, three
men are the judges who make up what they
call the Islamic Tribunal.
"To help to solve the problems and the
disputes between two parties," said Imam
Moujahed Bakhach.
Following Sharia, or Islamic law, the tribunal
is operating as a legal nonprofit registered
with the state of Texas.
On their website it states, "The need for a
mediation and non-binding arbitration firm
that adheres to Islamic principles in the
Muslim community has been a long time in
the making."
The judges say they only deal with civil cases
in the community, helping settle issues
ranging from business disputes to divorce.
Most of their cases have concerned divorce.
This tribunal has nothing to do with crime or
punishments, the men say.
"Our work, we just fix the religious part and we
file another suit as a regular case to the civil
courts," said judge Dr. Taher El-badawi.
They believe the tribunal offers the Muslim
community an option to resolve conflicts and
disputes according to the principles of Islamic
law.
"This tribunal is not there to circumvent legal
laws, federal laws, state laws -- it is simply
an arbitration," said Imam Zia ul Haque
Sheikh . "A tribunal where two parties that
are disputing get together, they come to an
agreement and then they present that
agreement to a judge."
They say the tribunal is there to help, and can
save people in the Muslim community time
and money.
But do their rulings conflict with U.S. laws?
"The general rule is if you decide to use
something other than a government-
sanctioned court to resolve your dispute then
generally that will be respected and enforced,"
said Austin-based attorney Pete Kennedy.
Kennedy says these types of organizations are
not unique to the Muslim community.
The judges say participating in the tribunal is
voluntary, and even after a decision is made
the case could still end up in traditional U.S.
courts.
"We do not have that kind of authority to force
anyone to follow our decision, that's your
decision if you accept it," said El-badawai. "If
you do not accept it, that's between you and
your God."
They say the idea for the Islamic Tribunal had
been kicked around since 1991, but wasn't
able to become a reality until 2013.
During the past year, they can remember
handling about 25 cases.
They also noted there's no time limit to the
length of the tribunal, but they can't remember
exceeding three sessions for a case.
According to the men, Islamic leaders from
other states have been calling to find out how
they started the tribunal.
It could be something that's seen more in the
future.""
Link.

 

 

 
 
 InsatiatiableSwm (6)    (52 / M-F / Connecticut)
5-Feb-15 9:45 pm
Just a way to set a precedent, to eventually circumvent our Constitution. It is already happening in the U.S., google Islamberg in upstate New York,they have their own police force,town council, & non believers are unwelcome. COMPLETELY UNCONSTITUTIONAL, & 1 of many areas almost completely under Muslim rule. Next check out Deerborn,Michigan.Largest muslim population congregated,in U.S.,over 400k

 

 

 
 
 ramblinman 
5-Feb-15 10:59 pm
And here come the conspiracy theories. Everyone grab your mud boots!

 

 

 
 
 Zilya777 
5-Feb-15 11:07 pm
@ramblinman: Are you saying that Islam is not a threat to The United States outside or in it?
It certainly is... To The America way of life & our laws as it was & is to The United Kingdom.
It is not a racism or religious issue. We are a Republic & trying to stay that way.. God willing.

 

 

 
 
 ramblinman 
5-Feb-15 11:13 pm
@Zilya777: Is Islam a threat? No. Is a mediation court based on Sharia a threat? No. Is radicalism a threat? Yes.

 

 

 
 
 WalkSoftly 
5-Feb-15 11:17 pm

 

 

 
 
 Zilya777 
5-Feb-15 11:28 pm
@ramblinman: If you believe.. That is what it is ' a mediation court', you may have a lot of reading to do.

As most Americans our ancestors came here for a better life & what the United States HAD to offer. And we learned the language, customs & laws & became ACTUAL tax paying citizens. And our ancestors adapted to them.

They DID'T try to change the country to suit they religious, political needs. Even the Amish ,Mennonites, Brethern, Friends, Quakers, Shakers.. Did not try to totally isolate themselves, convience the rest of the country to adapt to them or change our laws or our Constitution.
Our entire way of life in America is jeopardy, & we are rotting from the inside out.

 

 



Last edited by Zilya777; 5-Feb-15 11:31 pm.
 
 
 ramblinman 
5-Feb-15 11:45 pm
@ramblinman: If you believe.. That that is what it is ' a mediation court', you may have a lot of reading to do.

The Sharia courts are set up for Muslims, just as the Beit Din are set up for Jews. Muslims and Jews have religious laws that dictate actions in business, food, family relations, etc. Their laws are religious, but govern more than religious practice. They reach into every aspect of their lives. In setting up these courts they are not asking non-muslims to utilize them. They are for the Muslims themselves. If you note, it was said most of the cases involved divorce. That is because Sharia has rules for marriage and divorce, as does Torah and Talmud.

As most Americans our ancestors came here for a better life & what the United States HAD to offer. And we learned the language, customs & laws & became ACTUAL tax paying citizens. And our ancestors adapted to them.

And most Muslims that do come here are coming for the same reasons our anceators did. Freedom. Religious, economic, social freedoms. And not all of our ancestors adapted, nor were they ALL good actors.

They DID'T try to change the country to suit they religious, political needs. Even the Amish ,Mennonites, Brethern, Friends, Quakers, Shakers.. Did not try to totally isolate themselves, convience the rest of the country to adapt to them or change our laws or our Constitution.
Our entire way of life in America is is jeopardy, & we are rotting from the inside out.
If you isolate yourself, it would be difficult to convince the country to change tosuit their tastes. I know plenty of Muslims who are just as well integrated into this American society as are the rest of us. The only difference is they attend a mosque instead of a church, synagogue or temple.

Islam won't be the undoing of this nation. Only hatred of our fellow man/woman will tear us down.

 

 

 
 
 ramblinman 
5-Feb-15 11:47 pm
Looks like I didn't do the quotes correctly! Lol

 

 

 
 
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