Lol....well the ones who think they meant keeping the church outta the state are RIGHT!

And so the debate continues lol

Wat debate? question is settled I have spoken! ;^)~

I think they meant both... Keep the both of them completely seperate. State should not be run by a religion who is only out for it's own goals and advancement, and the Church should not be run by State, who are only trying to make money. Just the way I see it :)

I see it your way too Irish, all joking aside I truly believe that our founding fathers WERE escaping religious tyranny and wanted more for our fledgling country...

They were fleeing a tyranny, a Catholic controlled tyranny (no offense to Catholics) and the FFs were Protestant, Lutheran,etc...and so our current conundrum began...

Dont forget atheist

Just a note: To any lurkers, feel free to join in. We don't bite, not hard anyway

Welllll I heard that Mr. Ramtastic nibbles, but you'll like it....so come out and play!

I agree with the fact that they wanted them seperate. And irish is right also. No one should be forced to beleive in anything they dont beleive in. If i want to beleive in fairys an leprechans so be it. Nobody else has to. People should be able to live peacefully and happily. Ram the starting of your thread. Amen to that.