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Does a business have the right to refuse service to anyone they want to in the US? (by LaDawn)
@Luvbug21: Yeah youre right-and its ironic because the same people who would commit hate crimes because of a persons religious beliefs has probably fought for their beliefs all their lives. Why cant everyone just respect each others convictions? I mean if my beliefs infringe on yours then I politely accept that we have different beliefs and go on..only in a perfect world I guess lol
@SammyToo: Too true!! Exactly what I was thinking but unfortunately there are too many immature selfish people on this earth who simply refuse to be wrong smh. If something's broke fix it don't leave it lying there. And lord the government is no help nowadays, so don't try to depend on them for $hit.
Wonder when this will happen here?
"" London, England, Aug 3, 2013 / 06:03 am
(CNA/EWTN News).- Following legislation that
permits same-sex marriage in the U.K. yet
prohibits the Church of England from
performing the ceremony, a gay couple are
planning to sue to be able to marry in their
church.
“We are happy for gay marriage to be
recognized – in that sense it is a big step. But
it is actually a small step because it is
something we still cannot actually do,” Barrie
Drewitt-Barlow told the Essex Chronicle Aug.
1.
“We need to convince the church that it is the
right thing for our community for them to
recognize as practicing Christians.”
On July 17, the U.K.'s gay marriage bill
became law, meaning that beginning next year
same-sex couples – who can already obtain
civil unions – can become married in England
and Wales, though not in Scotland or Northern
Ireland.
The legislation allows churches and other
religious groups to conduct weddings for gay
couples at the church's discretion, though the
U.K.'s established church, the Church of
England, is barred from doing so.
Drewitt-Barlow and his partner Tony are
members of the Church of England, and are
upset that they will not be able to marry in
their own church.
“I want to go into my church and marry my
husband … it upsets me because I want it so
much – a big lavish ceremony, the whole
works, I just don't think it is going to happen
straight away,” Barrie said.
“As much as people are saying this is a good
thing I am still not getting what I want.”
The new legislation allows all religious groups
except the Church of England to perform
same-sex weddings.
“If I was a Sikh I could get married at the
Gurdwara, liberal Jews can marry in the
Synagogue – just not the Christians … the
only way forward for us now is to make a
challenge in the courts against the church.”
“We don't want to force anyone into marrying
us – it is supposed to be the happiest day in
my life and that would make me miserable
and would spoil the whole thing … aren't
Christians meant to forgive and accept and
love?”
“It is a shame that we are forced to take
Christians into a court to get them to
recognize us,” he added.
The Drewitt-Barlows had indicated their
willingness to sue for the right to be married
in the Church of England as early as
December, when the marriage bill was just
being introduced.
They told the BBC Dec. 17 that a ban on gay
marriages in the Churches of England and
Wales would “legally discriminate” against
them.""
Another "heyyyy" link.
"" London, England, Aug 3, 2013 / 06:03 am
(CNA/EWTN News).- Following legislation that
permits same-sex marriage in the U.K. yet
prohibits the Church of England from
performing the ceremony, a gay couple are
planning to sue to be able to marry in their
church.
“We are happy for gay marriage to be
recognized – in that sense it is a big step. But
it is actually a small step because it is
something we still cannot actually do,” Barrie
Drewitt-Barlow told the Essex Chronicle Aug.
1.
“We need to convince the church that it is the
right thing for our community for them to
recognize as practicing Christians.”
On July 17, the U.K.'s gay marriage bill
became law, meaning that beginning next year
same-sex couples – who can already obtain
civil unions – can become married in England
and Wales, though not in Scotland or Northern
Ireland.
The legislation allows churches and other
religious groups to conduct weddings for gay
couples at the church's discretion, though the
U.K.'s established church, the Church of
England, is barred from doing so.
Drewitt-Barlow and his partner Tony are
members of the Church of England, and are
upset that they will not be able to marry in
their own church.
“I want to go into my church and marry my
husband … it upsets me because I want it so
much – a big lavish ceremony, the whole
works, I just don't think it is going to happen
straight away,” Barrie said.
“As much as people are saying this is a good
thing I am still not getting what I want.”
The new legislation allows all religious groups
except the Church of England to perform
same-sex weddings.
“If I was a Sikh I could get married at the
Gurdwara, liberal Jews can marry in the
Synagogue – just not the Christians … the
only way forward for us now is to make a
challenge in the courts against the church.”
“We don't want to force anyone into marrying
us – it is supposed to be the happiest day in
my life and that would make me miserable
and would spoil the whole thing … aren't
Christians meant to forgive and accept and
love?”
“It is a shame that we are forced to take
Christians into a court to get them to
recognize us,” he added.
The Drewitt-Barlows had indicated their
willingness to sue for the right to be married
in the Church of England as early as
December, when the marriage bill was just
being introduced.
They told the BBC Dec. 17 that a ban on gay
marriages in the Churches of England and
Wales would “legally discriminate” against
them.""
Another "heyyyy" link.
A story similar to this threads topic....anyone remember the CO cake baker who refused to bake a cake for a gay cpl because of his religious convictions? Well, he lost his appeal....
"" In 2012, Dave Mullins and Charlie Craig sued
Colorado baker Jack Phillips for refusing to
bake a cake for their wedding. Today,
Colorado's Civil Rights Commission ruled that
Phillips did violate civil rights law by doing
so. A judge found the same in December;
today's seven-member panel just agreed.
Phillips, who claims he's gotten local support
for refusing to bake cakes for gay people, is
not pleased. "I will stand by my convictions
until somebody shuts me down," he told the
AP after the ruling . But the Commission says
he has to bake for everyone now. Phillips
owns the Masterpiece Cakeshop in the Denver
suburb of Lakewood and is a self-identified
devout Christian.""
Link.
Damn it to hell with that pesky freedom thing I guess.
"" In 2012, Dave Mullins and Charlie Craig sued
Colorado baker Jack Phillips for refusing to
bake a cake for their wedding. Today,
Colorado's Civil Rights Commission ruled that
Phillips did violate civil rights law by doing
so. A judge found the same in December;
today's seven-member panel just agreed.
Phillips, who claims he's gotten local support
for refusing to bake cakes for gay people, is
not pleased. "I will stand by my convictions
until somebody shuts me down," he told the
AP after the ruling . But the Commission says
he has to bake for everyone now. Phillips
owns the Masterpiece Cakeshop in the Denver
suburb of Lakewood and is a self-identified
devout Christian.""
Link.
Damn it to hell with that pesky freedom thing I guess.
Wow-but he can spit in the batter-lol I know I wouldnt trust him if I were part of a gay couple who forced him to make a cake now:)
I thought abt that lol....."Whoopsy! I musta mixed up the salt with the sugar....sowwy!" 

@WalkSoftly: Lol yeah and they definitely do NOT wanna order the chocolate supreme cake w 'fudge' icing! 

Well here in MS at a chic f lay restraunt a gay couple were kissing n basically making out when the manager asked them to leave. The owner of this restraunt was contacted n said that he would not allow any couple gay or straight to act like that in his restraints because his restraints r a family restraunt were families come to eat n enjoy themselves n he also said he was a Christian n did not condone that type of behavior in public !
Hmmm, I'm all for a family environment. But, I REALLY doubt that if this were a straight couple it would've been a problem. I'm not taking sides, but I'm sure he was trying to avoid saying anything controversial.
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