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This Week's Dating.mobi Pet Peeve Confessional (by Andres)
I don't give every user the same accord, I give every user the same accord they afford me. What you are seeing is simply a reflection of your attitude. An attitude I will frankly not waste any more time on because it is chock-full of hypocrisy, arrogance, and drama that simply isn't worth it. So feel free to have the last word and drown in your own self-righteousness.
I would have to re-think the way the Dump works, but this could be a potential Premium feature since Premium users are the only ones who can see who has dumped them. Let me give it a think...
I would have to re-think the way the Dump works, but this could be a potential Premium feature since Premium users are the only ones who can see who has dumped them. Let me give it a think...
@Andres: premium only? Dang. i understand the way you are trying to go about this, and it is good sir. The benefits of being THE administrator are endless. I personally think making the dump button cover this problem, for all users would make alot of lives easier, but you gotta buisness to run at the same time, so it is understandable. However, unfortunately, not matter how much i really want to be, i cannot afford the premium membership, and i ain't even got a credit card, so even if i could afford it, i still couldn't pay. Ohh well. I think that is still an awesome idea andres, even though i will not be able to utilize it. Thanks.
The problem is that the way the Dump is designed now, the vast majority of users (with the exception of Premium users) can't see who has Dumped them or when they've been Dumped. For the vast majority of users, I think this is much healthier as it doesn't bruise any ego's nor give people an incentive to obsess over someone that is outright rejecting them (e.g. what you don't know can't hurt you). Your suggestion would break that, as you would be able to figure out who Dumped you based on the author of the thread you were unable to access, that's why I think this feature would make more sense on the Premium version, since they already have that info and only represent a small % of the overall users.
Now, if you guys disagree with me that not seeing who Dumped you is healthier overall for the general populace, then we can discuss that. But before we do, recall back to how people reacted when we used to notify everyone when they got Negative Karma, and how much negativity that generated. Imagine, for whatever reason, you get Dumped several times on a daily basis and kept finding that out day after day. What effect would it have on you? Would it demoralize the casual (free) user to the point where they abandoned the site? Would it cause people to obsess over the person that Dumped them and make them find more intrusive ways of reaching them? I don't see this being an issue on the Premium version because those users are generally more serious about finding a date than your average user and are putting their money where their mouth is, but the vast majority of users are free/casual, and it is very difficult to predict what kind of effect providing this kind of information to everyone would have on this organism we call Dating.mobi.
Now, if you guys disagree with me that not seeing who Dumped you is healthier overall for the general populace, then we can discuss that. But before we do, recall back to how people reacted when we used to notify everyone when they got Negative Karma, and how much negativity that generated. Imagine, for whatever reason, you get Dumped several times on a daily basis and kept finding that out day after day. What effect would it have on you? Would it demoralize the casual (free) user to the point where they abandoned the site? Would it cause people to obsess over the person that Dumped them and make them find more intrusive ways of reaching them? I don't see this being an issue on the Premium version because those users are generally more serious about finding a date than your average user and are putting their money where their mouth is, but the vast majority of users are free/casual, and it is very difficult to predict what kind of effect providing this kind of information to everyone would have on this organism we call Dating.mobi.
@Jladawn: Im just curious if my opinion of this situation has been muddled by my initial impressions. I was, and still am very leery of people who anger so quickly and harshly-as I have seen with threads that evolved into horrible namecalling and threats. One question I cant get out of my head for Andres-If Jladawns friend was banned for the same thing as multiple profile user, then why cant her friend do the same-come back on w another profile and tell everyone who he is? Just curious? Not agreeing w anyone at this point until I know all the facts-but yeah this question wont stop comin up in my mind:)
@Sammy2: my friend was banned for EXACTLY this, the only difference was the user HE attacked wasn't ME, but another member. And I have never condoned his actions, those were not the action I wld have taken. But he PUBLICLY ate humble pie and asked to be reinstated with whatever punishment Andres deemed fitting....that punishment was deleting his thread asking and calling him a cyberbully and permanently banning him.
@Sammy2: actually there was an additional difference in that banning and this lack of banning, my friend didnt just attack for NO reason he just snapped and defended himself quite harshly after mnths of BEING cyberbullied. I never, not then nor now, cyberbullied my attacker.
@Andres: what if you made it to where the ones that are persistently harrassing an individul, would maybe get in trouble for the persistent harassment and inconveinience? Maybe not a ban, but maybe kicked off the forums permanently if they can't take the rejection of one person. They probably shouldn't be on a 100,000+ strong dating site if that is the case anyhow. Think about it. Someone would have to take into consideration the first 75,000 people they contact may not be interested before they finally find one whose boat they can float. Rejection is a given, that people are just going to have to learn to tolerate.
@JLaDawn: so the reason he cannot come back like the other person is that their bans were decided upon at different times for different reasons. Well sorry to hear that there is no resolution at this time for this-but I do believe Andres is truly a very fair and openminded admin-and getting upset w him over his decisions is understandable to me but not worth dragging it on:( You know when you punish your kids and they continue to question your decision? I think maybe thats where Andres is at this point-he made a decision for whatever reasons and is standing by it:) I really hope things can be resolved between yall on this issue, but he is the authority on this site&what he says goes:) dam no buttkissin intended I swear!lol love your threads and intelligent conversations girl heres a buttkiss for you too..
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@Sammy2: I get what ur saying, on the other hand when that hypocracy allows users to attack me in an especially aggressive manner and their punishment is done away with just becuz I have a friend that Andres dislikes, that is not a past matter but a current issue. If I can be treated in this manner and NOT expect the site admin to put a stop to it what avenue do I have to show potential mates that I am NOT a bitch or NOT a retard? What is to stop the hypocracy from affecting you or any other member of this site? I shld and u shld and EVERY member shld be able to feel confident that we can be ourselves (albeit respectfully) out here to showcase WHO we are without fear of being maliciously attacked.
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